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Jeff Smith -- The Frug -- Dies Heart Disease

   #1 User is offline   Carolyn Tillie

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 03:02 PM

Jeff Smith Dies

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SEATTLE (AP) - Jeff Smith, a white-bearded minister who became public television's popular "Frugal Gourmet" before a sex scandal ruined his career, has died, his business manager said Friday. He was 65.

Smith died in his sleep Wednesday, Jim Paddleford said. He had long suffered from heart disease and had a valve replaced in 1981.


I'm sure we'll be merging this with the entire Jeff Smith thread later, but I wanted to get the out asap.

There was the Wuzzut wi' him thread
The Collaboration thread
The original Jeff Smith thread

As well as several additional threads about Chefs as Writers, TV Personalities, Favorite/Least Favorite TV Personality, and T.V. Food Chefs.


I, for one, will mourn.

This post has been edited by Carolyn Tillie: 09 July 2004 - 03:09 PM


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Posted 09 July 2004 - 03:05 PM

I remember very much enjoying his TV show when I was younger. I wasn't even into cooking/food at the time, but my father was always watching cooking shows, and his presence on TV somehow was very soothing and relaxing to me. I know my father has just about every cookbook he ever put out, I Should drop by to borrow a couple and try out some recipes...
He don't mix meat and dairy,
He don't eat humble pie,
So sing a miserere
And hang the bastard high!

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 03:23 PM

He literally taught me to cook. What a shame. I always thought somehow, some way he'd make a way back.

I know it's easy to demonize people, but he must have some good parts about him. I sincerely hope this thread doesn't destroy what character the man had left.


edited to add:
Peace be with you.

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 03:38 PM

WOW...this news really kinda shocked me. It's been a while since any "classic" food TV personality popped his clogs. Cancer? Where does it say cancer??

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Smith died in his sleep Wednesday, Jim Paddleford said. He had long suffered from heart disease and had a valve replaced in 1981

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 03:46 PM

I certainly wasn't waiting for that one....

I mourn the passing of the man on TV that got me interested in cooking.
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Posted 09 July 2004 - 03:47 PM

I watched all his shows with extreme interest -- I credit him with my love for many ethnic foods that I would never tried unless I had seen his show. I hope he's gone to a better place.
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Posted 09 July 2004 - 03:52 PM

My feelings on the Frug, Jeff Smith: with all due respect to Julia Child, The Frugal Gourmet, if evaluated solely on its own merit, was still greatest cooking show in television history, with apologies to the current spate of FN shows ... Mr. Smith, wherever you are, I bid you peace..... and the music still sounds in my ears .. the theme music used for his show is Water Music Suite, No. 1 in F major, Bourree - by George Frideric Handel ... will miss his smile and laughter ... :sad:
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Posted 09 July 2004 - 03:59 PM

Always found his shows to be interesting and well done.
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Posted 09 July 2004 - 04:16 PM

I am very sorry to hear of Jeff Smith's passing. I loved his tv shows and have all of his cookbooks. I hope he finds peace...

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 04:25 PM

If the allegations would have been anything but hurting children, I think he could have been saved. However, those allegations (and, personally, I find truth in them) foreshadowed everything the man had ever done.

In my own personal opinion, we all have a good v. bad complex going on in our soul, and it's sad that a very good man went down because of it. If it would have anything other than him hurting children, he very possibly would have been forgiven. I hope the man does find forgiveness and peace.

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 04:30 PM

I credit the Frugal Gourmet for my interest in food. At a very young age, before I started elementary school, I would watch his show, fascinated with what I saw. It was my first foodie experience and I thank him, wherever he may be, for what he taught me.

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 04:41 PM

Jeff Smith taught me a whole lot about beans. He was a fantastic teacher. I miss him.

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 04:46 PM

When I started watching The Frugal Gourmet, I knew nothing about cooking except how to nuke a boneless chicken breast. Jeff Smith showed me that cooking could be fun, and I was able to make a number of his recipes even though I was inexperienced.
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Posted 09 July 2004 - 04:48 PM

I am sad to learn of this, and ditto the praise given here.
I did not know about a sex scandal or accusations about whatever you all are referring to. I, too, hope he is at peace.
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Posted 09 July 2004 - 04:51 PM

My favorite episode was about balsamic vinegars!

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 04:52 PM

As a chef I like what he did on his TV shows, he showed us what a big world it is and that there are so many different cultures with so many different food styles but somehow he bridged the differences we all have, I had the feeling it was one big global community when he was around.
Hope you found peace

Long live The Frugal Gourmet and may his believes of sharing food live on forever.
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Posted 09 July 2004 - 05:33 PM

Gifted Gourmet, on Jul 9 2004, 03:52 PM, said:

My feelings on the Frug, Jeff Smith:  with all due respect to Julia Child, The Frugal Gourmet, if evaluated solely on its own merit, was still greatest cooking show in television history, with apologies to the current spate of FN shows ... Mr. Smith, wherever you are, I bid you peace..... and the music still sounds in my ears .. the theme music used for his show is Water Music Suite,  No. 1 in F major, Bourree - by George Frideric Handel ... will miss his smile and laughter ... :sad:

I'll take this opportunity to post a big "ditto" to this post...
I loved the Frug...
And I hoped that I'd come here and find the type of posts that are in this thread...
Salud!
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Tomorrow, I just told my wife, I was going to do a tribute meal dedicated to Ol' Frugee...

I'm gonna do one of his favorites... He loved a good tripe dish, and I think he would have enjoyed my Menudo recipe...

Love ya Jeff, thank you, and I bid you peace!

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BTW, this story from the Fox web site says Heart problem...

http://www.foxnews.c...,125243,00.html

'Frugal Gourmet' Host Jeff Smith Dies
Friday, July 09, 2004

SEATTLE — Jeff Smith (search), a white-bearded minister who became public television's popular "Frugal Gourmet" (search) before a sex scandal ruined his career, has died, his business manager said Friday. He was 65.

Smith died in his sleep Wednesday, Jim Paddleford said. He had long suffered from heart disease and had a valve replaced in 1981.

This post has been edited by Mild Bill: 09 July 2004 - 05:41 PM


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Posted 09 July 2004 - 06:18 PM

I think the cancer thing in the subject header was just a mistake. No sources say it was cancer that took him. It's the same Reuters story in all the papers, etc. Died in his sleep. Not a bad way to leave this world.


[Moderators note: For those who are wondering why anyone is talking about cancer, it was mistakenly part of the header. That's been corrected.]

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 06:29 PM

I taped a lot of his shows. I still use his method for poaching chicken, it is the easiest and produces a beautiful result.
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Posted 09 July 2004 - 06:34 PM

Is that the Asian method of simmering the chicken for about 20 minutes and then removing from heat and letting it cook in the hot liquid? I think I remember him doing that.

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 06:43 PM

Yes, Pickles.
I don't simmer for 20 minutes, I bring water or stock to a boil in a large pot, must have good volume of water or stock, put the whole chicken in and bring it back to a rolling boil then cover and immediately turn heat off and leave for an hour. This works best with a smaller bird.
A stewing hen is too large to cook completely. That would require simmering. I also weight the chicken so it stays completely immersed. (I have a shiny, stainless steel clad 5 pound weight - a flat disc with a hole in the middle, supposed to be for a dumbbell) Which is perfect for keeping a chicken deep in the pot.

Guess how I get it out.............
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Posted 09 July 2004 - 06:47 PM

Frugal Gourmet recipes online

His books in paperback

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 06:47 PM

andiesenji, on Jul 9 2004, 06:43 PM, said:

Guess how I get it out.............

You use your hot ice pick thingie? :laugh:

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Posted 09 July 2004 - 06:57 PM

I hope the Frug is at peace, finally.

Between the old Julia Child programs, Graham Kerr's Galloping Gourmet shows when I was just a child (what a silly drunken fool he was back then!) and Jeff Smith, I learned all about a world of food that was foreign to my mother's kitchen. I still have the bibliography of Frugal Gourmet books and refer to them often. The Frugal Gourmet on Our Immigrant Ancestors is positively brilliant (and there are used copies on Amazon for less than $1.00!). I found the cultural and historical information just as interesting (if not more so) than the recipes. The man was a wonderful and passionate teacher, and for that alone he will be sorely missed.

Jeff Smith, I bid you Peace. :sad:
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Posted 09 July 2004 - 10:07 PM

Wow, I just saw him last weekend at Frank's Produce at the Market. He was in good spirits and we had a nice chat, even if it was brief. He had gained about 30 pounds since he was on TV and his voice was a lot huskier. I'll miss seeing him around on his scooter.

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Posted 10 July 2004 - 12:30 AM

I loved his show very much. It's unfortunate he will also be remembered for something else.

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Posted 10 July 2004 - 12:31 AM

Gifted Gourmet, on Jul 9 2004, 06:52 PM, said:

My feelings on the Frug, Jeff Smith: with all due respect to Julia Child, The Frugal Gourmet, if evaluated solely on its own merit, was still greatest cooking show in television history, with apologies to the current spate of FN shows ... Mr. Smith, wherever you are, I bid you peace..... and the music still sounds in my ears .. the theme music used for his show is Water Music Suite, No. 1 in F major, Bourree - by George Frideric Handel ... will miss his smile and laughter ... :sad:

You and me both my friend.

This is very personal.

I credited him for a large part of my father's interest in cooking (sharing with St. Jacques and St. Julia). Now he is an owner and operator of a restaurant from being a Northwest Airlines mechanic!

I remember how a passion for food and an enjoyment of Jeff Smith's show on PBS was one of those extra things that brought one very important person in my life together. He is good at impressions and could do the "I bid you peace." perfectly and was equally interested in the recipes in his show. One day we did this "outlandish" sandwich that was weighted with a brick, or some other heavy instrument, for lunch. Our lunches were always fantastic. That really was years ago.... Some of the best times I've had with someone I love dearly -- it was the pursuit of good food and sharing it.


Jeff Smith taught me that food is passion and love. (Didn't he say something mischevous about never have the bedroom far from the kitchen...?) How wonderful it is to share with another....

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Posted 10 July 2004 - 02:27 AM

Gifted Gourmet, on Jul 9 2004, 03:52 PM, said:

My feelings on the Frug, Jeff Smith:  with all due respect to Julia Child, The Frugal Gourmet, if evaluated solely on its own merit, was still greatest cooking show in television history, with apologies to the current spate of FN shows ... Mr. Smith, wherever you are, I bid you peace..... and the music still sounds in my ears .. the theme music used for his show is Water Music Suite,  No. 1 in F major, Bourree - by George Frideric Handel ... will miss his smile and laughter ... :sad:

Indeed. I could never say it better. Too young, he was, dammit!!! :sad:
Beans, I forgot the "I bid you peace." I...just cant say..how dear, dear that is to remember...thank you...-sob-sniffle-

edited to give thanks...

This post has been edited by petite tête de chou: 10 July 2004 - 02:48 AM

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Posted 10 July 2004 - 02:50 AM

To those of you who enjoyed my loving epitaph for Jeff Smith (and even quoted it!) , please know that, as a food writer, I might easily be cajoled into writing gourmet obits as supplemental income ... :hmmm: and it seems I have not won the lottery in Massachusetts ... :sad:

I guess it was, after all is said and done, and as suggested by another eGulleteer here, his passion and love of the food he shared with us all on his PBS Frugal Gourmet shows which best exemplified him as someone worthy of our affection ... it is for that love, his ebullience, his generous sharing, that I will always cherish his memory.

Once, when distracted and watching his show out of the corner of my eye, I actually thought his sign-off was "I bid you peas" ... not bad for a cooking show ... :laugh:
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Posted 10 July 2004 - 03:53 AM

Pickles, on Jul 9 2004, 06:47 PM, said:

andiesenji, on Jul 9 2004, 06:43 PM, said:

Guess how I get it out.............

You use your hot ice pick thingie? :laugh:

I buy 1/2 inch cotton twill "tape", which is like a ribbon, at the yardage store, because it comes in handy for a lot of things in the kitchen. I tie it in a figure-8 around the chicken then run the free end through the hole in the center of the weight and have enough to lead out of the pot and tie around a handle. Since it is flat, the lid will still fit tightly.

When the chicken is done I untie the tape, use a hook to snag the chicken then lift it out of the pot and the cloth tape slides free.

I use this same method when brining a turkey or pork roast. You can put stuff on top to weight them down but this is easier, it just requires some thinking ahead.
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